I’m starting to look at the electional chart of Obama’s nomination: 4:47pm, Denver 8/27/08. Jupiter is rising, which is a strong signature of his “hope” campaign. Although retrograde, it trines steady Saturn and Vesta in earth signs. The moon (public) is in Cancer making it’s final aspect to Mercury in Virgo (conjunct Venus). Although the man has won the nomination, there is no question that women, healthcare and education will mandate the final outcome of the election. The nomination has been made with lots of support in these areas as shown by this chart, but there are other indications of concern.
Pluto/Venus is a theme for Obama with this election. Transiting Pluto will come to his natal Venus early next year, signifying dark forces that will be beyond his control. This isn’t necessarily a doom forecast, but certainly indicates his relationship to his wife, women and a wrestle with his values. The more conscious he is during this process, the better for him (and if he’s elected) the nation. Nonetheless, there will be situations beyond his control. This could indicate he wins: OMG! Michelle under a microscope and now he sees the real deal of the country’s finances, etc once he’s in.
Or it could indicate he loses and hits a darkness of confidence. The Venus/Pluto theme is repeated in the nomination chart, with a different configuration. Venus is in the 8th, applying square to Pluto in the 12th. I keep wondering if there’s a lady from his past the Republican press might find to try to upset Obama. Or a seemingly shady financial dealing.
I don’t know that it would be enough to blow the election for Obama, but I do know he has very powerful enemies who are intent on undermining him. It’s true I don’t need astrology to tell me this. However, this electional offers the indication that he will have support if he remains able to effectively communicate his sincere feelings.
Something doesn’t seem right with the 4:47 pm time of nomination ? The nomination may have began at 4:47 but the Moon went voc during the counting process at 6:13 MST ? What happens then ? Appreciate any clarification and keep up the good work !
Laurence-
I used the 4:47 time from an article in the NY Times dated 8/28/2008:
” He was declared the party’s nominee at 4:47 p.m. Mountain time after Mrs. Clinton, in a light blue suit standing out in a crowd that included almost every elected New York official, moved that the roll call be suspended and that Mr. Obama be declared the party’s nominee by acclamation.”
Electionals occur when something happens; the first time you shake hands with a new person, the time the wedding ceremony begins or when the first party signs a contract. How long the process takes after the “first breath” of the event doesn’t change the conception time. IMO!
thanks for keeping me thinking,
Pamela
According to the New York Times article I have by John M.Brodor Obama’s formal nomination was served at 6:48 PM local time on August 27,2008. This just feels right to me. The 4:47 seems to early ? This is just a gut feeling (Sun/Neptune conjunction) and my opinion only. This means that the Moon was in fact void of course.
http://www.truthout.org/article/Obama-is-nominated-acclamation.Thank you for your kind response.
Laurence
Well, with the U.S.A.’s moon undergoing a Neptune transit, and the Inauguration set for a void of course moon, this certainly is an ongoing theme… and now of course, a VP who seems to embody all kinds of Neptunian qualities, including coming from the icy state of Alaska… thanks for the input!
Right…but what is considered “True Time”? EST,MST or PST? There had to be a True Time!
Toni
Toni- the “true time” to the Denver chart is MST….
but since Election Day has a void-of-course moon, I think it’s one reason why variables of times show up in different articles…